As part of our IGTV Live Chat series that began September of last year through our Giving Greens Instagram account, here comes our second episode with one of my friends who has been dedicated for many years to providing the right workout to people who are wanting to achieve a fit and healthy lifestyle. A family man who has been inspired by her mother to live an active way of life throughout his childhood. He is Leon Price who is set to motivate and push people’s limits in order to achieve a full-functioning body in a productive and efficient way. Read on below of their chat.

To get more of the insightful talk, watch the Youtube video included right in this article as well.

James: How’s your day been?

Leon: Huge, huge. It was good. Got started early about, first client, 6:30 and just got in the door at seven o’clock all ready for yourself. So, it was good. It was my last day of work since I’ll be taking four days off my holidays. You know the productivity in a rush that you get when you’re about to go on holiday? I squeezed that. Very hard but it was good fun.

James: And it’s your birthday tomorrow, is it right?

Leon: Correct, correct.

James: For anyone who doesn’t know you, give yourself a quick self-introduction.

Leon: I’m Leon. I’m 39. I moved to Perth about two and a half years ago. Moved from Townsville in North QLD. From there, I worked in the fitness industry for over a decade mainly doing a lot of personal training, bodybuilding at rehab, sports specific and then a bit of gym management in between morning and after shifts. A little bit of military background helps up the roles. And since moving to Perth, I’m working as a full-time club manager in Snap Fitness in Claremont. And also PT’ing out of that facility as well too.

James: You mentioned military army?

Leon: Yeah. Four years of fun and then they weren’t letting us do our job so I joined the contractors and did another three years of working overseas for the Defence Force. That was really an awesome experience.

James: Wow. So what led you to become a PT?

Leon: I think it was from probably the end of high school. I was just helping friends with their training and whatnot. And I was learning the gym around that time as well too so it was always grabbing a friend that said they didn’t feel comfortable to get into the gym or didn’t know what they’re doing and go from there. Also, I was doing a lot of the work overseas. I started running my own boot camp and PT’ing outside out of my normal full-time job too. So I was in the state, started getting my certificates up to and then hit the ground running full time when I finished up working the NHT more set myself up in Townsville for a good decade.

James: Did you do you feel like you always had a pretty high interest in health and wellness?

Leon: Yeah, definitely. So, from a young age, like right now, mother was a quite serious athlete or swimmer. She was very competitive from there and then once again in their 40s. So roughly at a young age, we were always in competitive swimming and then that naturally throughout high school led to the triathlon and then a bit of basketball as well too. Yes, it’s always been in my life, basically.

James: I worked as a PT for a short time. And I know that the hours are just super long that you have super early mornings, often working right through the day. Can be super exhausting. At times when it is just getting a lot like what is it that keeps you going? What is it that you keep thinking about “This is what I’m trying to do for people”?

Leon: For me, if you’re not doing your recovering or your nutrition right, you’re gonna bury yourself and burn out as well. And I, usually start at 6:30, 7:30 AM and sometimes finish at 8:30 PM, 4 days a week and then Fridays and Saturdays. If you’re not looking after your nutrition, you’re just gonna fall down. So, first, if you have to look after other people and not burnout, you gotta look after (yourself) number 1. It is a huge miss there. But the reason or reasons why for doing it is because I absolutely love the pants off it. The enjoyment I get so you got that one on one direction with my personal training clients and being able to see how far they wanna take it to do a full switch or if they just wanna do the training and dabble in the nutrition. Or if they just wanna dive right on in and just see that transformation they can make when you get a really committed client for that big life turn around is absolutely amazing. It gives me so much joy. And then on the management side, in the gym, the other guy in the gym is going to come up and ask you a question… I think it’s just after working this through that long and being able to give that 2 to 15-minute hands-on demonstration of exactly like he’s addressing that situational problem that they come up to you with. Whether it’s interest in training, “my chest hurts my wrist hurts, or why my legs still sore or am I recovering properly enough?” And be able to give them that advice, have them take and make a drastic improvement because otherwise sometimes that question would’ve gone on us unanswered for themselves and you can see that they’re making that commitment for themselves. Five times a week. They’re getting in there and getting it done, and that little tweak that you can add to them for them to make a big improvement in their life and their training, their training efforts first, then can lead down their life later is what brings me so much joy. And had about four incidences up that today and that’s something that I take gratitude in and put a little smiley face on two or three people each day that I get to do help make impacts, and that’s what really gets me going and makes me think that “you’re working 13, 14 hours” like it doesn’t matter ’cause I enjoyed it and getting all I need to do is well done too.

James: Have you ever heard of Alan Watts? He calls himself a spiritual entertainer and there are all these videos literally on YouTube. The question is “what would you do if money was no object?” If you had like all the money if you didn’t have to worry about money whatsoever, what would you be doing with your time?

Leon: PT for sure. Definitely helping people is what gives me such a kick. If I have all the money in the world, I’d be able to fill my time very well and very productively. But, to give that sense of purpose and enrichment in life, it would be helping people within the health and fitness space definitely.

James: Yeah, it’s always fascinating meeting people who wouldn’t change what they do, they would just be able to do it better. I used to have this one question that I usually ask people when I first meet them. Just to see how much they really actually enjoyed it, what they’re doing on a day-to-day basis. That was interesting to see. Obviously, in there somewhere in that time, you’re finding time to train for yourself as well?

Leon: Correct yes. Training a little bit less with this workload. I have this amazing PT. I’m only doing four strength training sessions a week and I just bang those suckers out of my lunch break, shower, change T-shirt and go from there. Last year when I wasn’t as busy, I was doing my bodybuilding water cycling and then also doing swimming and running races as well too. And just getting the efficiency of the workouts done and what equipment to be used was the absolute key to getting that done. So, you’re not just overtraining and putting lots of hours in to get the wrong type of outcome of what you wanted. I always make that balanced ‘cause if I don’t train, I get sad. To put it bluntly.

James: Do you have a specific goal you’re working on at the moment?

Leon: I hit my last month with my training which was 100 KGS lean. Now the next goal is, looking forward January, just 105 lean. Just bodybuilding training. Nothing too exciting. Not with views to compete or anything like that but still stay very functional, lean and still be able to go for some laps in the beach when we can if it’s not freezing cold. And I, like on the weekends, and mountain biking as well too. So yeah, that’s the goal. To just get that weight up and then still stay functional not just carrying watermelons under your arms.

James: When you’re working with your one on one clients, what are some of the hurdles that you have to help them over, initially? What are the common things you have to help clients through?

Leon: The first one is you can control them in the gym so I can get them at least twice a week. That’s correct. But, it’s about that nutrition. Using apps like MyFitnessPal to make sure that they’re tracking and knowing what they’re doing and giving them that empowerment and education. Those are the first vital things. If they’re not gonna do that, he’s just coming for a bit of fitness and chats and a good training session. When you identify those clients that are like, “Yeah, I’m gonna do this next level!”. You embrace that. And if there’s like that wishy-washy, that’s where you need to identify and help keep them accountable to those points of the nutrition component as well.

James: Yeah, I first started seeing a personal trainer when I was like 19. I remember the first second with him like, we didn’t lift anything first. The first thing we did was to look at a sheet of paper and there’s this massive triangle on this piece of paper. It said like the bottom 2/3 of it, you know, the foundation is pyramid was all that nutrition like 80% of all the work you gonna do when it comes to like changing body composition or getting thinner and think it’s always going to come down to nutrition. That’s the most important thing. That blew my mind. I think at the time like I wasn’t unfit. I was mountain biking regularly. I must be going through like a box of soft drinks a week or something. I just moved that down. He got me off that very quickly. This whole idea of how important nutrition is when it comes to any kind of body comp goals or fitness goals or health goals. He was a competitive body sculptor. And he got me drinking egg whites with pineapple juice.

Leon: I’ll give him points for the pineapple juice but egg whites are not absorbed when they’re eaten raw. Actually soaks up the nutrients that actually absorbs the protein that is in the belly too. Yeah, it’s going back two years ago.

James: 15 years ago now.

Leon: Yeah, yeah.

James: It was pretty horrendous.

Leon: And you got some good results for yourself?

James: I definitely changed a lot. I mean, I wouldn’t say massive, obviously. But I definitely saw slight changes in physique but the biggest change I noticed, I think, from changing nutrition and from working out regularly was energy levels. At the time I was working a sales job. And I honestly believe that getting nutrition right and working out regularly, improved my sales. And now that’s what drove me to become a PT. Because I feel that benefit and I like I want people to feel this. Training as well and doing the same thing. I think he’s still around and working somewhere. Yeah, funny guy. If you could give the listeners just one takeaway from this, what would it be?

Leon: I suppose one thing I really like is my favourite quote. I like to listen a lot to the good old classic, Zig Ziglar and Brian Tracy. And so one thing that in the industry in, I think life in the business, was the biggest thing from good, old Zig Ziglar was “help enough people to get what they want. And then they’ll enable you to get what you want in life.” I think that’s reflective in the business, especially with health and fitness. You help enough people to get and achieve what they wanna get and then in turn you’re awarded for getting what you want out of life. And for me, that is the enjoyment of helping others initially. I was able to create that revenue to support a lifestyle and my crazy ass biohacking, training and recovery tools and toys that I have at home as well. It is very reflective. And then I think fitness-specific wise would be if you do what you always do you’ll get what you always got. So, we like to empower and educate people at our gym through workshops and encouraging people to ask questions. Well, that’s what I was doing previously – getting injured, not getting results. Let’s change our approach so we can get a different outcome. And that failing to recognise that is doing the same thing is expecting different results, basically insanity. 

James: You mentioned biohacking. What is your craziest biohack?

Leon: My craziest one? In the last week is involved we did, got some friends, we did some sauna-iced bath swings. That was good fun. As you’re jumping into four degrees. After being in the sauna. It is pace to pace. Like you don’t feel the cold. It’s quite interesting. I would be finishing up a seven-day fast. I committed to one of my clients before with one. It was just like water, mineral water and black coffee and I realised last night I found out that I was having some melatonin gummies and then they had sugar in them. So I’m like, OK. Well, I’ve completely blown the autophagy phase. And then I’m like okay, I have some bone broth, ’cause I remember seeing that it was good. But it, once again, took away the autophagy face on what I’ve spent five days fasting. And just from having these melatonin gummies and bone broth blown up so I was gonna break it yesterday… on my birthday, for the seven days. But yeah, after my disappointment over my inaccuracies and what I could have turned the fast a break with a block of cheese. Yeah, I got things like infrared lights, acupressure mats and just did a lot of breathwork last year with just long holds and just jumping on the Wim Hof bandwagon with his app for doing the retention holes as well too. So yeah that’s been a bit of enjoyment. It’s the kind of thing you check in your day to day just so you can keep kicking butt and having progression for yourself. 

James: I used to regularly do a fair bit of… Oh, I don’t know what it was called. It was like “in for five seconds, hold 5 seconds out, five seconds hold 5 seconds”. Can’t remember what it’s called, it’s like…

Leon: Box breathing? So you can do that like there’s breath in for four hold for four out for four and cycle that and then. Similar to apnea where you take the breath in slowly over a certain amount of seconds and hold for 30, 40 and then out for 8 to 15 and keep going through that. It’s an awesome way, just to leave yourself in meditation. Cause you do about 5-10 minutes cycles that you can place today and just lie there for another five and think of nothing and bam! You got meditation done at the same time as breathwork. 

James: Yeah, I gotta get back in for that, really.

Leon: Yeah, it’s good. Awesome. 

James: I definitely felt something good from that. A five day fast, It’s still made of five days. Even though you didn’t make it seven…

Leon: Five and a half. Yeah. Not gonna beat myself up over it. 

James: I think the longest I’ve tried was three days.

Leon: That’s the hard one. It’s at that 2-hour mark that you get the hungriest. It’s like a two-hour, two-day mark and then from there, the whole line, which says, “Hey, you’re hungry”, just goes and pops right down again. And then from, you usually had like that 24-hour mark and get this focus and energy increase. Next, you’ll get the hunger and then after that, it’s just smooth sailing. It’s easy. 

James: And you are still going about your regular day your regular work while fasting?

Leon: Yup. And training. I got a little bit dizzy on leg day which was like 30 reps of Bulgarian splits, weighted. We got a little bit funny but still high output. A lot of focus. Cause the key is to keep yourself just distracted really. So your productivity tied in with your cognitive function enhance just gets a lot done for it. It’s cool. 

James: Yeah. Personally, I went through the three days. I pretty much stayed on the couch for the whole time, that was it.

Leon: No, you would hate it.

James: Then I got on to juice.

Leon: Onto the what, I’m sorry?

James: Onto juices? Like fresh fruit juices for a few days. A friend was trying to get me to do it for ages and I was like “Nah, it’s a ridiculous idea. Don’t be silly.” I thought, “well, I’ll give it a try”. So three days, just water. I’m pretty sure I had tea as well, like herbal teas. And then came out of it, onto the juices. And for like weeks afterwards, maybe a couple of weeks. So much like I had an endless amount of energy, I could go for like 18 hour days. It’s like working all day long. Looks like something I’ve never ever experienced before in my life. Have you had anything like that?

Leon: Awesome. Yeah, yeah, that’s yeah, once you hit that 20-hour mark, it’s just energy goes right through the roof, yeah. 

James: Fascinating.

Leon: Yeah, so good. I think if I feel tired like I’ll only probably say that word once a month on my “Aww, I feel tired” and that’s the indication for me to sleep and… best investment I’ve made this year has been the Whoop Watch. The monitoring tied-in app. Yet today it was always on 30% recovery, so there was no training today it was just foam rolling and 10 minutes rolling over legs, and that’s that. That’s that. Keeps you tomorrow. Be able to have that full energy as well. 

James: Yeah, right. I don’t know if I’ll try it again.

Leon: Do it. Do it. You can join us. We did, myself and my clients did roll over each month we’ll do a straight out. That way we can share each other’s experiences and keep each other accountable. 

James: Alright. Before we wrap up, do you have anything that you’d like to add? Anything you’d like to say?

Leon: Want to say big thanks to yourself actually for the microgreens or Giving Greens service as well. Because I always do it back in town. I had the perfect setup and make my little alfalfa sprouts and then broccoli sprouts. And just this motivation beyond and the amount of sulforaphane that’s in them, which is really amazing for yourself. And yeah, I just stumbled across it well from somebody’s Instagram and I just saw, I know I used to pay $8 one this big and now every Tuesday, I got one this big delivered and it’s awesome. So yeah, so big thanks to yourself and really looking forward to getting more members our in front of more snap fitness crew. And just you can’t get fresher than it’s still growing in the tray. 

James: Yeah, thank you very much. I remember seeing your name many times on Instagram. And then one day this order came through I was like, hey, I recognise that name. Alright, so my final question is “what does living a healthy happy life mean to you?”

Leon: It means for me, energy, performance, greater efficiency in training and productivity for your working day, and then it just rolls onto the rest of your life and relationship. As long as I’m getting to lift things, stretch, get a bit of breath working and do a few recovery bits and pieces, that means I’m happy.